tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post1126384778004101799..comments2024-03-27T07:41:27.083-07:00Comments on Great Ming Military: Exotic weapons from 'San Cai Tu Hui (《三才圖會》)'春秋戰國http://www.blogger.com/profile/14961602507085597255noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-34068907042354175522023-05-12T20:14:52.593-07:002023-05-12T20:14:52.593-07:00@梅县ANON
You can check my "telling apart Chine...@梅县ANON<br />You can check my "telling apart Chinese polearms" article.春秋戰國https://www.blogger.com/profile/14961602507085597255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-83766068877688657892023-05-12T16:17:42.117-07:002023-05-12T16:17:42.117-07:00could you please link to some pictures?could you please link to some pictures?梅县anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02104933936194598802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-7916681774768258592023-05-12T16:16:13.218-07:002023-05-12T16:16:13.218-07:00Is their any difference between a cha and a tang p...Is their any difference between a cha and a tang pa, or are they synonymous? 梅县anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02104933936194598802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-48437274279369994062022-11-25T19:57:20.917-08:002022-11-25T19:57:20.917-08:00Tie Gu Duo usually refers to a mace (any mace).
...Tie Gu Duo usually refers to a mace (any mace). <br /><br />The trident with the name here is out of the norm. Since tridents are not called by that name usually.春秋戰國https://www.blogger.com/profile/14961602507085597255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-68145762744127134242022-11-25T05:56:11.487-08:002022-11-25T05:56:11.487-08:00Hi, was the Tie Gu Duo a mace or a trident? Or bot...Hi, was the Tie Gu Duo a mace or a trident? Or both? Do you know of an example of a mace referred to as Tie Gu Duo?Blutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14899677963619100998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-86717139136063174782020-11-13T07:01:14.556-08:002020-11-13T07:01:14.556-08:00Sir, I want to contact you regarding your research...Sir, I want to contact you regarding your research but your contact page does not accept my email. Please advise how I may connect with you. Thank you and kind regards.Forgotten Swordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14444703155206100360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-78836700902054202662019-11-14T23:56:12.932-08:002019-11-14T23:56:12.932-08:00Oh I didn't mean to say that it was old. I don...Oh I didn't mean to say that it was old. I don't think they existed before Baguazhang was founded, which was somewhere around 1800, so at least about a 150 years.<br />The similarity however is pretty obvious. I brought them up because they arent very well known and (although this is not the same as exotic) quite an odd and unconventional shape. (at least I don't know of any other weapons that were used like this(tonfa's and such are far less intended to have ''killing intend'', sure you can bludgeon with them but for a quick deadly strike not so much)Jugglejunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08898934867779862200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-31082132439156862762019-11-14T23:18:11.481-08:002019-11-14T23:18:11.481-08:00Unlike other exotic Chinese weapons such as Tiger ...Unlike other exotic Chinese weapons such as Tiger Hooks, I've never seen an actual antique rooster claw knives, so I am doubtful if the history of that weapon really is that long.<br />春秋戰國https://www.blogger.com/profile/14961602507085597255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-71263840354915113972019-11-14T07:44:19.815-08:002019-11-14T07:44:19.815-08:00Xiu Kou also looks quite similar to Bagua rooster ...Xiu Kou also looks quite similar to Bagua rooster claw knives https://www.selfdefenseguides.info/duck-knives/methods-and-applications-of-ba-gua-specialty-weapons.html from Baguazhang, so they are at least from before 1850 and I would imagine quite at close quarters.<br /><br />As for the Cha someone asked about. The picture wouldn't load but, it mentioned that it could cut. The fork that I know of that can cut is the trident axe, here you'll find a guide about the weapon from Shaolin austrlia. https://www.shaolin.com.au/Weapon-Trident.htmlJugglejunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08898934867779862200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-50865019234519762412019-02-12T13:57:25.437-08:002019-02-12T13:57:25.437-08:00Funny you mentioned that as one of the weapon used...Funny you mentioned that as one of the weapon used by the Nakhi was a straight sickle with a hook tip and a series of hook tooth along the inside of the blade. It was a tool but mentioned as being used in combat too. The GhostHerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10301763913750538639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-79370748377758354582019-02-12T10:13:11.817-08:002019-02-12T10:13:11.817-08:00I view the weapon as being gimmicky and not very e...I view the weapon as being gimmicky and not very effective. Surely getting clawed by one will hurt like hell, and it may have some uses as a swordcatcher, but something like a fighting sickle (also common during the same period) seems way more useful in general.春秋戰國https://www.blogger.com/profile/14961602507085597255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-29883972558000824202019-02-12T03:18:20.048-08:002019-02-12T03:18:20.048-08:00I asked that because it was used by the Nakhi of y...I asked that because it was used by the Nakhi of yunnan and I found it strange given its already rare usage among Han,so I've figured I would ask you The GhostHerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10301763913750538639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-70650574461822985442019-02-11T17:51:48.059-08:002019-02-11T17:51:48.059-08:00You mean the "backscratcher"? I don'...You mean the "backscratcher"? I don't think it was very common at all. Most backscratchers I've seen dated to late Qing, so I doubt it existed in the Ming period. The backscratcher is usually one-handed.春秋戰國https://www.blogger.com/profile/14961602507085597255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-1274193488839727722019-02-10T15:34:49.384-08:002019-02-10T15:34:49.384-08:00I had a question to ask regarding a unconventional...I had a question to ask regarding a unconventional weapon. In the west known as zhua, and not the one with the nail, but the one with a open claw, how common was it? Do you know some things about it? Was it more commonly two handed or one handed? The GhostHerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10301763913750538639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-24264447026177883892017-04-27T01:59:00.307-07:002017-04-27T01:59:00.307-07:00No no, that's just my gut feeling, due to the ...No no, that's just my gut feeling, due to the fork's similarity to trisula, such as this one <br /><br />http://simg314.magcasa.com/content_images/2017/02/08/471173/1486485728_3713.jpg<br /><br />So don't take my word for it. The weapon may still be a practical combat weapon. It is not uncommon for practical weapons to be decorated with religious motif.春秋戰國https://www.blogger.com/profile/14961602507085597255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-53745937894064907802017-04-27T01:21:02.947-07:002017-04-27T01:21:02.947-07:00Thanks for the quick reply, and the info.
It's...Thanks for the quick reply, and the info.<br />It's really ironic. I look for what I think are combat weapons, and I end up finding a ceremonial weapon. It's obvious that I still have a lot to learn. It never gets easy does it?夏武俠https://www.blogger.com/profile/05574268351365715558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-45398299120247252242017-04-26T00:51:27.087-07:002017-04-26T00:51:27.087-07:00Indeed I don't have a definite answer, but I d...Indeed I don't have a definite answer, but I do think the large, rounded ones ("tiger fork")are by far the more common. Modern wushu fork seems to based on a variety of Ming and Qing forks without much standardisation (generally anything that "looks cool").<br /><br />My gut feeling (?) tells me that the fork you showed me has some religious connonation, although I have no way to tell if that feeling is true or not.春秋戰國https://www.blogger.com/profile/14961602507085597255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-7964669049337448462017-04-26T00:20:36.781-07:002017-04-26T00:20:36.781-07:00I have a question.
I have seen some old Cha (叉) t...I have a question. <br />I have seen some old Cha (叉) that have cutting edges. Like this one.<br />http://ru.qqgfw.com/images/Edit/sangucha2.jpg<br /><br />Were they more common in the past, than the rounded, conical tipped ones that martial artists use now? Or were these edged ones just some kind of aberration? <br /><br />It's fine if you don't have the answer, I've just been really curious about it, and I was hoping you could shed some light on this.夏武俠https://www.blogger.com/profile/05574268351365715558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-64407956243743785932016-05-12T18:24:32.998-07:002016-05-12T18:24:32.998-07:00@s ss
No difference actually. Just different names...@s ss<br />No difference actually. Just different names for the same thing.春秋戰國https://www.blogger.com/profile/14961602507085597255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-12030317847867028672016-05-12T04:55:25.966-07:002016-05-12T04:55:25.966-07:00what's difference between 鐵鞭 and 鋼鞭what's difference between 鐵鞭 and 鋼鞭ssdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17247615417039147679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-16360227965684365092016-05-11T18:41:48.477-07:002016-05-11T18:41:48.477-07:00Sure it does, although its multiple spikes and hoo...Sure it does, although its multiple spikes and hooks are quite redundant.春秋戰國https://www.blogger.com/profile/14961602507085597255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1776482547357658591.post-1984022651418671392016-05-10T18:28:20.295-07:002016-05-10T18:28:20.295-07:00I bet a Chaotic Heavean Poke would hurt a lot.I bet a Chaotic Heavean Poke would hurt a lot.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06994348090945988216noreply@blogger.com